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Round Table Discussion | Worst Case and Best Practice
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It would strike me that it would be a fairly short step to have a woman with a veil
doing the news cast, especially now that “Little Mosque on the Prairie” has made
the way. That’s like the easy part. The tougher part is, get the media to move away
from “us vs. them” and to think of news as “we”.
From the audience
Regarding this ranking of Rainer Geißler, there’s one remark I’d like
to make, linking it with what Augie Fleras said about the immigration
societies. There, of course, this acceptance by the population was built
into the system. Canada was open, largely; therefore immigration was
the norm for centuries. And in the United States, it was the same. All
Americans, the sole exception may be the Native Americans, were
descendants of immigrants and aware of it. And even if they didn’t
like the late comers – the protestants didn’t like the Irish, the Irish
didn’t like the Germans, the Germans didn’t like the South-East
Europeans, the South-East Europeans didn’t like the Asians, okay.
But they took them all in; that was the norm. Whereas in Europe they
didn’t have this ideology. I think this is very much an elite discourse,
which is typical of Europe: You have an elite discourse, then maybe
you hold a referendum and then the Dutch and the French, just like
with the European Constitution, say “no”. Then you say: “Well, what
do we do?” And you go around it. The consensus in the German
society, in Swiss society, in Dutch society is missing. So the elites
don’t know what to do because the population hasn’t been born into
it. In Canada, in America, there’s much criticism – “So many
Hispanics” – but there’s by and large a consensus “We are an
immigrant country”. This consensus has now arrived in the elites. The
German elites say: “Yes, we are a country of immigration.” But that’s
only the elites. The population says: “Well, we’re not overly happy
about it.” So that’s the problem. Because, of course, these are the
constituents, this is the mass of the media audience. So it is a media
problem, but it is also a democracy problem. The majority of the
population is not very much pro-immigration – unlike in the U.S.,
unlike in Canada. Which I think explains, to a certain degree, why
North Americans do better in such a ranking.
Augie Fleras
I would like to point out that we mainly use the term “immigrant society” not only
in a descriptive sense to indicate that there are, let’s say, 250,000 new Canadians.
And note that the term we use is “New Canadians”: They are Canadians, or we
assume that they are going to be Canadians. But there is also a kind of
Media – Migration – Integration
European and North American Perspectives
- Title
- Media – Migration – Integration
- Subtitle
- European and North American Perspectives
- Authors
- Rainer Geissler
- Horst Pöttker
- Publisher
- transcript Verlag
- Date
- 2009
- Language
- English
- License
- CC BY-NC-ND 3.0
- ISBN
- 978-3-8376-1032-1
- Size
- 15.0 x 22.4 cm
- Pages
- 250
- Keywords
- Integration, Media, Migration, Europe, North America, Sociology of Media, Sociology
- Category
- Medien