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confession is too late; for I see that you are not only in love, but are already
far gone in your love. Simple and foolish as I am, the Gods have given me the
power of understanding affections of this kind.
Whereupon he blushed more and more.
Ctesippus said: I like to see you blushing, Hippothales, and hesitating to
tell Socrates the name; when, if he were with you but for a very short time,
you would have plagued him to death by talking about nothing else. Indeed,
Socrates, he has literally deafened us, and stopped our ears with the praises of
Lysis; and if he is a little intoxicated, there is every likelihood that we may
have our sleep murdered with a cry of Lysis. His performances in prose are
bad enough, but nothing at all in comparison with his verse; and when he
drenches us with his poems and other compositions, it is really too bad; and
worse still is his manner of singing them to his love; he has a voice which is
truly appalling, and we cannot help hearing him: and now having a question
put to him by you, behold he is blushing.
Who is Lysis? I said: I suppose that he must be young; for the name does
not recall any one to me.
Why, he said, his father being a very well-known man, he retains his
patronymic, and is not as yet commonly called by his own name; but,
although you do not know his name, I am sure that you must know his face,
for that is quite enough to distinguish him.
But tell me whose son he is, I said.
He is the eldest son of Democrates, of the deme of Aexone.
Ah, Hippothales, I said; what a noble and really perfect love you have
found! I wish that you would favour me with the exhibition which you have
been making to the rest of the company, and then I shall be able to judge
whether you know what a lover ought to say about his love, either to the
youth himself, or to others.
Nay, Socrates, he said; you surely do not attach any importance to what he
is saying.
Do you mean, I said, that you disown the love of the person whom he says
that you love?
No; but I deny that I make verses or address compositions to him.
He is not in his right mind, said Ctesippus; he is talking nonsense, and is
stark mad.
O Hippothales, I said, if you have ever made any verses or songs in honour
of your favourite, I do not want to hear them; but I want to know the purport
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
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- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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