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Craytlus PERSONS OF THE DIALOGUE: Socrates, Hermogenes, Cratylus. HERMOGENES: Suppose that we make Socrates a party to the argument? CRATYLUS: If you please. HERMOGENES: I should explain to you, Socrates, that our friend Cratylus has been arguing about names; he says that they are natural and not conventional; not a portion of the human voice which men agree to use; but that there is a truth or correctness in them, which is the same for Hellenes as for barbarians. Whereupon I ask him, whether his own name of Cratylus is a true name or not, and he answers ‘Yes.’ And Socrates? ‘Yes.’ Then every man’s name, as I tell him, is that which he is called. To this he replies—‘If all the world were to call you Hermogenes, that would not be your name.’ And when I am anxious to have a further explanation he is ironical and mysterious, and seems to imply that he has a notion of his own about the matter, if he would only tell, and could entirely convince me, if he chose to be intelligible. Tell me, Socrates, what this oracle means; or rather tell me, if you will be so good, what is your own view of the truth or correctness of names, which I would far sooner hear. SOCRATES: Son of Hipponicus, there is an ancient saying, that ‘hard is the knowledge of the good.’ And the knowledge of names is a great part of knowledge. If I had not been poor, I might have heard the fifty-drachma course of the great Prodicus, which is a complete education in grammar and language—these are his own words—and then I should have been at once able to answer your question about the correctness of names. But, indeed, I have only heard the single-drachma course, and therefore, I do not know the truth about such matters; I will, however, gladly assist you and Cratylus in the investigation of them. When he declares that your name is not really Hermogenes, I suspect that he is only making fun of you;—he means to say that you are no true son of Hermes, because you are always looking after a fortune and never in luck. But, as I was saying, there is a good deal of difficulty in this sort of knowledge, and therefore we had better leave the question open until we have heard both sides. HERMOGENES: I have often talked over this matter, both with Cratylus and others, and cannot convince myself that there is any principle of correctness in names other than convention and agreement; any name which you give, in my opinion, is the right one, and if you change that and give 375
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The Complete Plato
Title
The Complete Plato
Author
Plato
Date
~347 B.C.
Language
English
License
PD
Size
21.0 x 29.7 cm
Pages
1612
Keywords
Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
Categories
Geisteswissenschaften
International

Table of contents

  1. Part 1 - Early Dialogues 3
    1. The Apology 4
    2. Charmides 37
    3. Laches 64
    4. Lysis 88
    5. Euthyphro 113
    6. Menexenus 131
    7. Ion 144
    8. Gorgias 157
    9. Protagoras 246
    10. Meno 296
  2. Part 2 - Middle Dialogues 332
    1. Euthydemus 333
    2. Craytlus 375
    3. Phaedo 436
    4. Phaedrus 498
    5. The Symposium 548
    6. Theaetetus 590
    7. Parmenides 670
  3. Part 3 - Late Dialogues 733
    1. Sophist 734
    2. Statesman 803
    3. Philebus 867
    4. Timaeus 937
    5. Critias 997
  4. Part 4 - The Republic 1010
    1. Book I 1011
    2. Book II 1044
    3. Book III 1072
    4. Book IV 1108
    5. Book V 1139
    6. Book VI 1176
    7. Book VII 1207
    8. Book VIII 1236
    9. Book IX 1267
    10. Book X 1292
  5. Part 5 - The Laws 1320
    1. Book I 1321
    2. Book II 1346
    3. Book III 1368
    4. Book IV 1394
    5. Book V 1413
    6. Book VI 1430
    7. Book VII 1459
    8. Book VIII 1493
    9. Book IX 1513
    10. Book X 1539
    11. Book XI 1565
    12. Book XII 1587
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