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And he who loves not is not a lover or friend?
Clearly not.
What place then is there for friendship, if, when absent, good men have no
need of one another (for even when alone they are sufficient for themselves),
and when present have no use of one another? How can such persons ever be
induced to value one another?
They cannot.
And friends they cannot be, unless they value one another?
Very true.
But see now, Lysis, whether we are not being deceived in all this—are we
not indeed entirely wrong?
How so? he replied.
Have I not heard some one say, as I just now recollect, that the like is the
greatest enemy of the like, the good of the good?—Yes, and he quoted the
authority of Hesiod, who says:
‘Potter quarrels with potter, bard with bard, Beggar with beggar;’
and of all other things he affirmed, in like manner, ‘That of necessity the
most like are most full of envy, strife, and hatred of one another, and the most
unlike, of friendship. For the poor man is compelled to be the friend of the
rich, and the weak requires the aid of the strong, and the sick man of the
physician; and every one who is ignorant, has to love and court him who
knows.’ And indeed he went on to say in grandiloquent language, that the idea
of friendship existing between similars is not the truth, but the very reverse of
the truth, and that the most opposed are the most friendly; for that everything
desires not like but that which is most unlike: for example, the dry desires the
moist, the cold the hot, the bitter the sweet, the sharp the blunt, the void the
full, the full the void, and so of all other things; for the opposite is the food of
the opposite, whereas like receives nothing from like. And I thought that he
who said this was a charming man, and that he spoke well. What do the rest
of you say?
I should say, at first hearing, that he is right, said Menexenus.
Then we are to say that the greatest friendship is of opposites?
Exactly.
Yes, Menexenus; but will not that be a monstrous answer? and will not the
all-wise eristics be down upon us in triumph, and ask, fairly enough, whether
love is not the very opposite of hate; and what answer shall we make to them
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
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- PD
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- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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