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come to my senses and know where I am; in the meantime I have been living
in the Islands of the Blest. Such is the art of our rhetoricians, and in such
manner does the sound of their words keep ringing in my ears.
MENEXENUS: You are always making fun of the rhetoricians, Socrates;
this time, however, I am inclined to think that the speaker who is chosen will
not have much to say, for he has been called upon to speak at a moment’s
notice, and he will be compelled almost to improvise.
SOCRATES: But why, my friend, should he not have plenty to say? Every
rhetorician has speeches ready made; nor is there any difficulty in
improvising that sort of stuff. Had the orator to praise Athenians among
Peloponnesians, or Peloponnesians among Athenians, he must be a good
rhetorician who could succeed and gain credit. But there is no difficulty in a
man’s winning applause when he is contending for fame among the persons
whom he is praising.
MENEXENUS: Do you think not, Socrates?
SOCRATES: Certainly ‘not.’
MENEXENUS: Do you think that you could speak yourself if there should
be a necessity, and if the Council were to choose you?
SOCRATES: That I should be able to speak is no great wonder,
Menexenus, considering that I have an excellent mistress in the art of rhetoric,
—she who has made so many good speakers, and one who was the best
among all the Hellenes—Pericles, the son of Xanthippus.
MENEXENUS: And who is she? I suppose that you mean Aspasia.
SOCRATES: Yes, I do; and besides her I had Connus, the son of
Metrobius, as a master, and he was my master in music, as she was in
rhetoric. No wonder that a man who has received such an education should be
a finished speaker; even the pupil of very inferior masters, say, for example,
one who had learned music of Lamprus, and rhetoric of Antiphon the
Rhamnusian, might make a figure if he were to praise the Athenians among
the Athenians.
MENEXENUS: And what would you be able to say if you had to speak?
SOCRATES: Of my own wit, most likely nothing; but yesterday I heard
Aspasia composing a funeral oration about these very dead. For she had been
told, as you were saying, that the Athenians were going to choose a speaker,
and she repeated to me the sort of speech which he should deliver, partly
improvising and partly from previous thought, putting together fragments of
the funeral oration which Pericles spoke, but which, as I believe, she
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
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