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Cleinias: Here are two wise men, Euthydemus and Dionysodorus, Cleinias,
wise not in a small but in a large way of wisdom, for they know all about war,
—all that a good general ought to know about the array and command of an
army, and the whole art of fighting in armour: and they know about law too,
and can teach a man how to use the weapons of the courts when he is injured.
They heard me say this, but only despised me. I observed that they looked
at one another, and both of them laughed; and then Euthydemus said: Those,
Socrates, are matters which we no longer pursue seriously; to us they are
secondary occupations.
Indeed, I said, if such occupations are regarded by you as secondary, what
must the principal one be; tell me, I beseech you, what that noble study is?
The teaching of virtue, Socrates, he replied, is our principal occupation;
and we believe that we can impart it better and quicker than any man.
My God! I said, and where did you learn that? I always thought, as I was
saying just now, that your chief accomplishment was the art of fighting in
armour; and I used to say as much of you, for I remember that you professed
this when you were here before. But now if you really have the other
knowledge, O forgive me: I address you as I would superior beings, and ask
you to pardon the impiety of my former expressions. But are you quite sure
about this, Dionysodorus and Euthydemus? the promise is so vast, that a
feeling of incredulity steals over me.
You may take our word, Socrates, for the fact.
Then I think you happier in having such a treasure than the great king is in
the possession of his kingdom. And please to tell me whether you intend to
exhibit your wisdom; or what will you do?
That is why we have come hither, Socrates; and our purpose is not only to
exhibit, but also to teach any one who likes to learn.
But I can promise you, I said, that every unvirtuous person will want to
learn. I shall be the first; and there is the youth Cleinias, and Ctesippus: and
here are several others, I said, pointing to the lovers of Cleinias, who were
beginning to gather round us. Now Ctesippus was sitting at some distance
from Cleinias; and when Euthydemus leaned forward in talking with me, he
was prevented from seeing Cleinias, who was between us; and so, partly
because he wanted to look at his love, and also because he was interested, he
jumped up and stood opposite to us: and all the other admirers of Cleinias, as
well as the disciples of Euthydemus and Dionysodorus, followed his example.
And these were the persons whom I showed to Euthydemus, telling him that
they were all eager to learn: to which Ctesippus and all of them with one
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
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- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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