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They both agreed to this statement of them.
He proceeded: And did you deny the force of the whole preceding
argument, or of a part only?
Of a part only, they replied.
And what did you think, he said, of that part of the argument in which we
said that knowledge was recollection, and hence inferred that the soul must
have previously existed somewhere else before she was enclosed in the body?
Cebes said that he had been wonderfully impressed by that part of the
argument, and that his conviction remained absolutely unshaken. Simmias
agreed, and added that he himself could hardly imagine the possibility of his
ever thinking differently.
But, rejoined Socrates, you will have to think differently, my Theban
friend, if you still maintain that harmony is a compound, and that the soul is a
harmony which is made out of strings set in the frame of the body; for you
will surely never allow yourself to say that a harmony is prior to the elements
which compose it.
Never, Socrates.
But do you not see that this is what you imply when you say that the soul
existed before she took the form and body of man, and was made up of
elements which as yet had no existence? For harmony is not like the soul, as
you suppose; but first the lyre, and the strings, and the sounds exist in a state
of discord, and then harmony is made last of all, and perishes first. And how
can such a notion of the soul as this agree with the other?
Not at all, replied Simmias.
And yet, he said, there surely ought to be harmony in a discourse of which
harmony is the theme.
There ought, replied Simmias.
But there is no harmony, he said, in the two propositions that knowledge is
recollection, and that the soul is a harmony. Which of them will you retain?
I think, he replied, that I have a much stronger faith, Socrates, in the first of
the two, which has been fully demonstrated to me, than in the latter, which
has not been demonstrated at all, but rests only on probable and plausible
grounds; and is therefore believed by the many. I know too well that these
arguments from probabilities are impostors, and unless great caution is
observed in the use of them, they are apt to be deceptive —in geometry, and
in other things too. But the doctrine of knowledge and recollection has been
proven to me on trustworthy grounds; and the proof was that the soul must
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
- Categories
- Geisteswissenschaften
- International