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PHAEDRUS: What do you mean, my good Socrates? How can you
imagine that my unpractised memory can do justice to an elaborate work,
which the greatest rhetorician of the age spent a long time in composing.
Indeed, I cannot; I would give a great deal if I could.
SOCRATES: I believe that I know Phaedrus about as well as I know
myself, and I am very sure that the speech of Lysias was repeated to him, not
once only, but again and again;—he insisted on hearing it many times over
and Lysias was very willing to gratify him; at last, when nothing else would
do, he got hold of the book, and looked at what he most wanted to see,— this
occupied him during the whole morning;—and then when he was tired with
sitting, he went out to take a walk, not until, by the dog, as I believe, he had
simply learned by heart the entire discourse, unless it was unusually long, and
he went to a place outside the wall that he might practise his lesson. There he
saw a certain lover of discourse who had a similar weakness;—he saw and
rejoiced; now thought he, ‘I shall have a partner in my revels.’ And he invited
him to come and walk with him. But when the lover of discourse begged that
he would repeat the tale, he gave himself airs and said, ‘No I cannot,’ as if he
were indisposed; although, if the hearer had refused, he would sooner or later
have been compelled by him to listen whether he would or no. Therefore,
Phaedrus, bid him do at once what he will soon do whether bidden or not.
PHAEDRUS: I see that you will not let me off until I speak in some
fashion or other; verily therefore my best plan is to speak as I best can.
SOCRATES: A very true remark, that of yours.
PHAEDRUS: I will do as I say; but believe me, Socrates, I did not learn the
very words—O no; nevertheless I have a general notion of what he said, and
will give you a summary of the points in which the lover differed from the
non-lover. Let me begin at the beginning.
SOCRATES: Yes, my sweet one; but you must first of all show what you
have in your left hand under your cloak, for that roll, as I suspect, is the actual
discourse. Now, much as I love you, I would not have you suppose that I am
going to have your memory exercised at my expense, if you have Lysias
himself here.
PHAEDRUS: Enough; I see that I have no hope of practising my art upon
you. But if I am to read, where would you please to sit?
SOCRATES: Let us turn aside and go by the Ilissus; we will sit down at
some quiet spot.
PHAEDRUS: I am fortunate in not having my sandals, and as you never
have any, I think that we may go along the brook and cool our feet in the
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
- Categories
- Geisteswissenschaften
- International