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worse thing be inflicted upon me by you.
PHAEDRUS: Not yet, Socrates; not until the heat of the day has passed; do
you not see that the hour is almost noon? there is the midday sun standing
still, as people say, in the meridian. Let us rather stay and talk over what has
been said, and then return in the cool.
SOCRATES: Your love of discourse, Phaedrus, is superhuman, simply
marvellous, and I do not believe that there is any one of your contemporaries
who has either made or in one way or another has compelled others to make
an equal number of speeches. I would except Simmias the Theban, but all the
rest are far behind you. And now I do verily believe that you have been the
cause of another.
PHAEDRUS: That is good news. But what do you mean?
SOCRATES: I mean to say that as I was about to cross the stream the usual
sign was given to me,—that sign which always forbids, but never bids, me to
do anything which I am going to do; and I thought that I heard a voice saying
in my ear that I had been guilty of impiety, and that I must not go away until I
had made an atonement. Now I am a diviner, though not a very good one, but
I have enough religion for my own use, as you might say of a bad writer—his
writing is good enough for him; and I am beginning to see that I was in error.
O my friend, how prophetic is the human soul! At the time I had a sort of
misgiving, and, like Ibycus, ‘I was troubled; I feared that I might be buying
honour from men at the price of sinning against the gods.’ Now I recognize
my error.
PHAEDRUS: What error?
SOCRATES: That was a dreadful speech which you brought with you, and
you made me utter one as bad.
PHAEDRUS: How so?
SOCRATES: It was foolish, I say,—to a certain extent, impious; can
anything be more dreadful?
PHAEDRUS: Nothing, if the speech was really such as you describe.
SOCRATES: Well, and is not Eros the son of Aphrodite, and a god?
PHAEDRUS: So men say.
SOCRATES: But that was not acknowledged by Lysias in his speech, nor
by you in that other speech which you by a charm drew from my lips. For if
love be, as he surely is, a divinity, he cannot be evil. Yet this was the error of
both the speeches. There was also a simplicity about them which was
refreshing; having no truth or honesty in them, nevertheless they pretended to
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
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- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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