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further, that in sober earnest I, having persuaded you of this, went and
composed a speech in honour of an ass, whom I entitled a horse beginning: ‘A
noble animal and a most useful possession, especially in war, and you may
get on his back and fight, and he will carry baggage or anything.’
PHAEDRUS: How ridiculous!
SOCRATES: Ridiculous! Yes; but is not even a ridiculous friend better
than a cunning enemy?
PHAEDRUS: Certainly.
SOCRATES: And when the orator instead of putting an ass in the place of a
horse, puts good for evil, being himself as ignorant of their true nature as the
city on which he imposes is ignorant; and having studied the notions of the
multitude, falsely persuades them not about ‘the shadow of an ass,’ which he
confounds with a horse, but about good which he confounds with evil,—what
will be the harvest which rhetoric will be likely to gather after the sowing of
that seed?
PHAEDRUS: The reverse of good.
SOCRATES: But perhaps rhetoric has been getting too roughly handled by
us, and she might answer: What amazing nonsense you are talking! As if I
forced any man to learn to speak in ignorance of the truth! Whatever my
advice may be worth, I should have told him to arrive at the truth first, and
then come to me. At the same time I boldly assert that mere knowledge of the
truth will not give you the art of persuasion.
PHAEDRUS: There is reason in the lady’s defence of herself.
SOCRATES: Quite true; if only the other arguments which remain to be
brought up bear her witness that she is an art at all. But I seem to hear them
arraying themselves on the opposite side, declaring that she speaks falsely,
and that rhetoric is a mere routine and trick, not an art. Lo! a Spartan appears,
and says that there never is nor ever will be a real art of speaking which is
divorced from the truth.
PHAEDRUS: And what are these arguments, Socrates? Bring them out that
we may examine them.
SOCRATES: Come out, fair children, and convince Phaedrus, who is the
father of similar beauties, that he will never be able to speak about anything
as he ought to speak unless he have a knowledge of philosophy. And let
Phaedrus answer you.
PHAEDRUS: Put the question.
SOCRATES: Is not rhetoric, taken generally, a universal art of enchanting
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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