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that we should care much about the opinions of men?
PHAEDRUS: Your question needs no answer; but I wish that you would
tell me what you say that you have heard.
SOCRATES: At the Egyptian city of Naucratis, there was a famous old
god, whose name was Theuth; the bird which is called the Ibis is sacred to
him, and he was the inventor of many arts, such as arithmetic and calculation
and geometry and astronomy and draughts and dice, but his great discovery
was the use of letters. Now in those days the god Thamus was the king of the
whole country of Egypt; and he dwelt in that great city of Upper Egypt which
the Hellenes call Egyptian Thebes, and the god himself is called by them
Ammon. To him came Theuth and showed his inventions, desiring that the
other Egyptians might be allowed to have the benefit of them; he enumerated
them, and Thamus enquired about their several uses, and praised some of
them and censured others, as he approved or disapproved of them. It would
take a long time to repeat all that Thamus said to Theuth in praise or blame of
the various arts. But when they came to letters, This, said Theuth, will make
the Egyptians wiser and give them better memories; it is a specific both for
the memory and for the wit. Thamus replied: O most ingenious Theuth, the
parent or inventor of an art is not always the best judge of the utility or
inutility of his own inventions to the users of them. And in this instance, you
who are the father of letters, from a paternal love of your own children have
been led to attribute to them a quality which they cannot have; for this
discovery of yours will create forgetfulness in the learners’ souls, because
they will not use their memories; they will trust to the external written
characters and not remember of themselves. The specific which you have
discovered is an aid not to memory, but to reminiscence, and you give your
disciples not truth, but only the semblance of truth; they will be hearers of
many things and will have learned nothing; they will appear to be omniscient
and will generally know nothing; they will be tiresome company, having the
show of wisdom without the reality.
PHAEDRUS: Yes, Socrates, you can easily invent tales of Egypt, or of any
other country.
SOCRATES: There was a tradition in the temple of Dodona that oaks first
gave prophetic utterances. The men of old, unlike in their simplicity to young
philosophy, deemed that if they heard the truth even from ‘oak or rock,’ it was
enough for them; whereas you seem to consider not whether a thing is or is
not true, but who the speaker is and from what country the tale comes.
PHAEDRUS: I acknowledge the justice of your rebuke; and I think that the
Theban is right in his view about letters.
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
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- 1612
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- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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