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acquisition of good things. Nor is there any need to ask why a man desires
happiness; the answer is already final.’ ‘You are right.’ I said. ‘And is this
wish and this desire common to all? and do all men always desire their own
good, or only some men?—what say you?’ ‘All men,’ I replied; ‘the desire is
common to all.’ ‘Why, then,’ she rejoined, ‘are not all men, Socrates, said to
love, but only some of them? whereas you say that all men are always loving
the same things.’ ‘I myself wonder,’ I said, ‘why this is.’ ‘There is nothing to
wonder at,’ she replied; ‘the reason is that one part of love is separated off and
receives the name of the whole, but the other parts have other names.’ ‘Give
an illustration,’ I said. She answered me as follows: ‘There is poetry, which,
as you know, is complex and manifold. All creation or passage of non-being
into being is poetry or making, and the processes of all art are creative; and
the masters of arts are all poets or makers.’ ‘Very true.’ ‘Still,’ she said, ‘you
know that they are not called poets, but have other names; only that portion of
the art which is separated off from the rest, and is concerned with music and
metre, is termed poetry, and they who possess poetry in this sense of the word
are called poets.’ ‘Very true,’ I said. ‘And the same holds of love. For you
may say generally that all desire of good and happiness is only the great and
subtle power of love; but they who are drawn towards him by any other path,
whether the path of money-making or gymnastics or philosophy, are not
called lovers—the name of the whole is appropriated to those whose affection
takes one form only—they alone are said to love, or to be lovers.’ ‘I dare say,’
I replied, ‘that you are right.’ ‘Yes,’ she added, ‘and you hear people say that
lovers are seeking for their other half; but I say that they are seeking neither
for the half of themselves, nor for the whole, unless the half or the whole be
also a good. And they will cut off their own hands and feet and cast them
away, if they are evil; for they love not what is their own, unless perchance
there be some one who calls what belongs to him the good, and what belongs
to another the evil. For there is nothing which men love but the good. Is there
anything?’ ‘Certainly, I should say, that there is nothing.’ ‘Then,’ she said,
‘the simple truth is, that men love the good.’ ‘Yes,’ I said. ‘To which must be
added that they love the possession of the good?’ ‘Yes, that must be added.’
‘And not only the possession, but the everlasting possession of the good?’
‘That must be added too.’ ‘Then love,’ she said, ‘may be described generally
as the love of the everlasting possession of the good?’ ‘That is most true.’
‘Then if this be the nature of love, can you tell me further,’ she said, ‘what
is the manner of the pursuit? what are they doing who show all this eagerness
and heat which is called love? and what is the object which they have in
view? Answer me.’ ‘Nay, Diotima,’ I replied, ‘if I had known, I should not
have wondered at your wisdom, neither should I have come to learn from you
about this very matter.’ ‘Well,’ she said, ‘I will teach you:—The object which
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
- Categories
- Geisteswissenschaften
- International