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figure not only himself, but his words. For, although I forgot to mention this
to you before, his words are like the images of Silenus which open; they are
ridiculous when you first hear them; he clothes himself in language that is like
the skin of the wanton satyr—for his talk is of pack-asses and smiths and
cobblers and curriers, and he is always repeating the same things in the same
words (compare Gorg.), so that any ignorant or inexperienced person might
feel disposed to laugh at him; but he who opens the bust and sees what is
within will find that they are the only words which have a meaning in them,
and also the most divine, abounding in fair images of virtue, and of the widest
comprehension, or rather extending to the whole duty of a good and
honourable man.
This, friends, is my praise of Socrates. I have added my blame of him for
his ill-treatment of me; and he has ill-treated not only me, but Charmides the
son of Glaucon, and Euthydemus the son of Diocles, and many others in the
same way—beginning as their lover he has ended by making them pay their
addresses to him. Wherefore I say to you, Agathon, ‘Be not deceived by him;
learn from me and take warning, and do not be a fool and learn by experience,
as the proverb says.’
When Alcibiades had finished, there was a laugh at his outspokenness; for
he seemed to be still in love with Socrates. You are sober, Alcibiades, said
Socrates, or you would never have gone so far about to hide the purpose of
your satyr’s praises, for all this long story is only an ingenious
circumlocution, of which the point comes in by the way at the end; you want
to get up a quarrel between me and Agathon, and your notion is that I ought to
love you and nobody else, and that you and you only ought to love Agathon.
But the plot of this Satyric or Silenic drama has been detected, and you must
not allow him, Agathon, to set us at variance.
I believe you are right, said Agathon, and I am disposed to think that his
intention in placing himself between you and me was only to divide us; but he
shall gain nothing by that move; for I will go and lie on the couch next to you.
Yes, yes, replied Socrates, by all means come here and lie on the couch
below me.
Alas, said Alcibiades, how I am fooled by this man; he is determined to get
the better of me at every turn. I do beseech you, allow Agathon to lie between
us.
Certainly not, said Socrates, as you praised me, and I in turn ought to praise
my neighbour on the right, he will be out of order in praising me again when
he ought rather to be praised by me, and I must entreat you to consent to this,
and not be jealous, for I have a great desire to praise the youth.
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
- Categories
- Geisteswissenschaften
- International