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Here Adeimantus interposed and said: To these statements, Socrates, no
one can offer a reply; but when you talk in this way, a strange feeling passes
over the minds of your hearers: They fancy that they are led astray a little at
each step in the argument, owing to their own want of skill in asking and
answering questions; these littles accumulate, and at the end of the discussion
they are found to have sustained a mighty overthrow and all their former
notions appear to be turned upside down. And as unskilful players of draughts
are at last shut up by their more skilful adversaries and have no piece to
move, so they too find themselves shut up at last; for they have nothing to say
in this new game of which words are the counters; and yet all the time they
are in the right. The observation is suggested to me by what is now occurring.
For any one of us might say, that although in words he is not able to meet you
at each step of the argument, he sees as a fact that the votaries of philosophy,
when they carry on the study, not only in youth as a part of education, but as
the pursuit of their maturer years, most of them become strange monsters, not
to say utter rogues, and that those who may be considered the best of them are
made useless to the world by the very study which you extol.
Well, and do you think that those who say so are wrong?
I cannot tell, he replied; but I should like to know what is your opinion.
Hear my answer; I am of opinion that they are quite right.
Then how can you be justified in saying that cities will not cease from evil
until philosophers rule in them, when philosophers are acknowledged by us to
be of no use to them?
You ask a question, I said, to which a reply can only be given in a parable.
Yes, Socrates; and that is a way of speaking to which you are not at all
accustomed, I suppose.
I perceive, I said, that you are vastly amused at having plunged me into
such a hopeless discussion; but now hear the parable, and then you will be
still more amused at the meagreness of my imagination: for the manner in
which the best men are treated in their own States is so grievous that no single
thing on earth is comparable to it; and therefore, if I am to plead their cause, I
must have recourse to fiction, and put together a figure made up of many
things, like the fabulous unions of goats and stags which are found in pictures.
Imagine then a fleet or a ship in which there is a captain who is taller and
stronger than any of the crew, but he is a little deaf and has a similar infirmity
in sight, and his knowledge of navigation is not much better. The sailors are
quarrelling with one another about the steering—everyone is of opinion that
he has a right to steer, though he has never learned the art of navigation and
cannot tell who taught him or when he learned, and will further assert that it
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
- Categories
- Geisteswissenschaften
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