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several brothers, who are the offspring of a single pair; very possibly the majority of them may be unjust, and the just may be in a minority. Cleinias. Very possibly. Athenian. And you and I ought not to raise a question of words as to whether this family and household are rightly said to be superior when they conquer, and inferior when they are conquered; for we are not now considering what may or may not be the proper or customary way of speaking, but we are considering the natural principles of right and wrong in laws. Cleinias. What you say, Stranger, is most true. Megillus. Quite excellent, in my opinion, as far as we have gone. Athenian. Again; might there not be a judge over these brethren, of whom we were speaking? Cleinias. Certainly. Athenian. Now, which would be the better judge—one who destroyed the bad and appointed the good to govern themselves; or one who, while allowing the good to govern, let the bad live, and made them voluntarily submit? Or third, I suppose, in the scale of excellence might be placed a judge, who, finding the family distracted, not only did not destroy any one, but reconciled them to one another for ever after, and gave them laws which they mutually observed, and was able to keep them friends. Cleinias. The last would be by far the best sort of judge and legislator. Athenian. And yet the aim of all the laws which he gave would be the reverse of war. Cleinias. Very true. Athenian. And will he who constitutes the state and orders the life of man have in view external war, or that kind of intestine war called civil, which no one, if he could prevent, would like to have occurring in his own state; and when occurring, every one would wish to be quit of as soon as possible? Cleinias. He would have the latter chiefly in view. Athenian. And would he prefer that this civil war should be terminated by the destruction of one of the parties, and by the victory of the other, or that peace and friendship should be re–established, and that, being reconciled, they should give their attention to foreign enemies? Cleinias. Every one would desire the latter in the case of his own state. 1324