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fallen into a difficulty by reason of the vices of mankind, I affirm that our
ordinance should simply run in the following terms: Our citizens ought not to
fall below the nature of birds and beasts in general, who are born in great
multitudes, and yet remain until the age for procreation virgin and unmarried,
but when they have reached the proper time of life are coupled, male and
female, and lovingly pair together, and live the rest of their lives in holiness
and innocence, abiding firmly in their original compact:—surely, we will say
to them, you should be better than the animals. But if they are corrupted by
the other Hellenes and the common practice of barbarians, and they see with
their eyes and hear with their ears of the so–called free love everywhere
prevailing among them, and they themselves are not able to get the better of
the temptation, the guardians of the law, exercising the functions of lawgivers,
shall devise a second law against them.
Cleinias. And what law would you advise them to pass if this one failed?
Athenian. Clearly, Cleinias, the one which would naturally follow.
Cleinias. What is that?
Athenian. Our citizens should not allow pleasures to strengthen with
indulgence, but should by toil divert the aliment and exuberance of them into
other parts of the body; and this will happen if no immodesty be allowed in
the practice of love. Then they will be ashamed of frequent intercourse, and
they will find pleasure, if seldom enjoyed, to be a less imperious mistress.
They should not be found out doing anything of the sort. Concealment shall
be honourable, and sanctioned by custom and made law by unwritten
prescription; on the other hand, to be detected shall be esteemed
dishonourable, but not, to abstain wholly. In this way there will be a second
legal standard of honourable and dishonourable, involving a second notion of
right. Three principles will comprehend all those corrupt natures whom we
call inferior to themselves, and who form but one dass, and will compel them
not to transgress.
Cleinias. What are they?
Athenian. The principle of piety, the love of honour, and the desire of
beauty, not in the body but in the soul. These are, perhaps, romantic
aspirations; but they are the noblest of aspirations, if they could only be
realized in all states, and, God willing, in the matter of love we may be able to
enforce one of two things—either that no one shall venture to touch any
person of the freeborn or noble class except his wedded wife, or sow the
unconsecrated and bastard seed among harlots, or in barren and unnatural
lusts; or at least we may abolish altogether the connection of men with men;
and as to women, if any man has to do with any but those who come into his
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The Complete Plato
- Title
- The Complete Plato
- Author
- Plato
- Date
- ~347 B.C.
- Language
- English
- License
- PD
- Size
- 21.0 x 29.7 cm
- Pages
- 1612
- Keywords
- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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