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us; we shall be free, and masters of others; and these things will be really
ours, for we shall be benefited by them. But in things of which we have no
understanding, no one will trust us to do as seems good to us—they will
hinder us as far as they can; and not only strangers, but father and mother, and
the friend, if there be one, who is dearer still, will also hinder us; and we shall
be subject to others; and these things will not be ours, for we shall not be
benefited by them. Do you agree?
He assented.
And shall we be friends to others, and will any others love us, in as far as
we are useless to them?
Certainly not.
Neither can your father or mother love you, nor can anybody love anybody
else, in so far as they are useless to them?
No.
And therefore, my boy, if you are wise, all men will be your friends and
kindred, for you will be useful and good; but if you are not wise, neither
father, nor mother, nor kindred, nor any one else, will be your friends. And in
matters of which you have as yet no knowledge, can you have any conceit of
knowledge?
That is impossible, he replied.
And you, Lysis, if you require a teacher, have not yet attained to wisdom.
True.
And therefore you are not conceited, having nothing of which to be
conceited.
Indeed, Socrates, I think not.
When I heard him say this, I turned to Hippothales, and was very nearly
making a blunder, for I was going to say to him: That is the way, Hippothales,
in which you should talk to your beloved, humbling and lowering him, and
not as you do, puffing him up and spoiling him. But I saw that he was in great
excitement and confusion at what had been said, and I remembered that,
although he was in the neighbourhood, he did not want to be seen by Lysis; so
upon second thoughts I refrained.
In the meantime Menexenus came back and sat down in his place by Lysis;
and Lysis, in a childish and affectionate manner, whispered privately in my
ear, so that Menexenus should not hear: Do, Socrates, tell Menexenus what
you have been telling me.
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The Complete Plato
- Titel
- The Complete Plato
- Autor
- Plato
- Datum
- ~347 B.C.
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- englisch
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- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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