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possessors of these qualities, Agathon, must be supposed to have their
respective advantages at the time, whether they choose or not; and who can
desire that which he has? Therefore, when a person says, I am well and wish
to be well, or I am rich and wish to be rich, and I desire simply to have what I
have—to him we shall reply: ‘You, my friend, having wealth and health and
strength, want to have the continuance of them; for at this moment, whether
you choose or no, you have them. And when you say, I desire that which I
have and nothing else, is not your meaning that you want to have what you
now have in the future?’ He must agree with us—must he not?
He must, replied Agathon.
Then, said Socrates, he desires that what he has at present may be
preserved to him in the future, which is equivalent to saying that he desires
something which is non-existent to him, and which as yet he has not got:
Very true, he said.
Then he and every one who desires, desires that which he has not already,
and which is future and not present, and which he has not, and is not, and of
which he is in want;—these are the sort of things which love and desire seek?
Very true, he said.
Then now, said Socrates, let us recapitulate the argument. First, is not love
of something, and of something too which is wanting to a man?
Yes, he replied.
Remember further what you said in your speech, or if you do not remember
I will remind you: you said that the love of the beautiful set in order the
empire of the gods, for that of deformed things there is no love—did you not
say something of that kind?
Yes, said Agathon.
Yes, my friend, and the remark was a just one. And if this is true, Love is
the love of beauty and not of deformity?
He assented.
And the admission has been already made that Love is of something which
a man wants and has not?
True, he said.
Then Love wants and has not beauty?
Certainly, he replied.
And would you call that beautiful which wants and does not possess
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The Complete Plato
- Titel
- The Complete Plato
- Autor
- Plato
- Datum
- ~347 B.C.
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- englisch
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- Philosophy, Antique, Philosophie, Antike, Dialogues, Metaphysik, Metaphysics, Ideologie, Ideology, Englisch
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